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ape
05-12-2005, 11:57 PM
Server is up. New user accounts have been created. User is prompted to change password at next login. When you try it says you do not have permission to change it! Help!!!!!!!!!!

gunderstone
05-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Where is it set that the user needs to change their password; is it set during account creation?

Also, are there any domain policies that are in conflict?

malcontent
05-14-2005, 02:19 AM
I know it's easy to read a feature list and make a judgement but talk to somebody who has real world experience with both linux and mac servers and they will tell you that the Mac servers are not ready for prime time. The reasons are many but I'll just touch on a few.

1) It's very dangerous to mess with any config files because the GUI tends to rewrite them. This means that if there is not an option for doing what you want in the GUI then you are stuck.
2) No official ports system. Fink and darwinports are a good try but neither one compares to freebsd, debian, gentoo, suse etc.
3) The interdependecies between products are complex if something goes wrong it will take you weeks to try and figure out what happened. Also simply HUPing a service is not good enough, many times you have to reboot the server.
4) The admin community is small. There is much better support in the linux/freebsd world. More docs, more howtos, more IRC channels. The Mac docs on the apple web site are merely a walk through the GUI application. Very lame.

As I said, that's just scratching the surface. It's not bad but linux is a better server hands down.

weberc
05-23-2005, 09:07 PM
On servers filesystems matter. HFS has some growing to do. I have terabytes on linux (xfs) tru64 and windows.
Tru64 with its volume management (advfs) is way ahead, basically veritas on steroids. Sun's ZFS will be even better. Neither matter all that much to most of us except as an example.
Run an ntfs partition at 100% usage for 6 months and unpleasant things happen. How about that fragmentation?
Hopefully 2k3 is better.
XFS on linux is decent. At hIgh utilization, no wierd crashes or fragmentation. It is not perfect yet and the volume management is mixed. It works but you have to bang your head against the wall.